Project Boat Vessel Log


Ouch! Worse than the first
ding in a new car
The following web pages are a running journal of activity on our project boat, Toy Boat 2 - a 2001 Edgewater 175CC, currently rigged with an Evinrude E-TEC 90.
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Oct. 15, 2009
Ouch! EMM Woes
Well, we got the bad news from Boat Depot...it was not something simple or cheap. Apparently the engine's EMM is bad, and must be replaced at a cost of $1,300. That's about 20% of the cost of the motor when we bought it new. Unfortunately, the motor is out of warranty, so we'll have to cover the whole cost.
We were not able to get any definitive answer as to what caused the problem, or how to prevent it in the future. We're OK with paying for the repair, but it would be nice to know that it won't happen again in 3 years. BRP Tech Support suggested that perhaps our battery caused the problem (too small, and a deep cycle, rather than a starting battery). But considering that the motor has never had a problem turning over (once we got through the water in the fuel issue), and can run without a battery, it seems unlikely to us that those could cause the EMM charging circuits or software to go south.
Remember that the motor runs fine, even with the defective EMM - it just doesn't charge the battery.
Sept. 18, 2009
First Marlin & Charging System Woes...
Went out yesterday with Scott Leon (Paradigm Shift Charters) on Toy Boat 2, looking for tuna, yellowtail and dorado. I wanted to test out a couple of short offshore fly rods from Sea Level Fly Fishing for our sister site, Beyond The Breakwater.
Well, the fishing was slow, other than this 135lb marlin
226 Spot Marlin
Kudos to Scott, who drove the boat and leadered the fish. I mostly cranked and kept my fingers crossed.
On the negative side, both of our batteries went dead, despite the engine running most of the time. We discovered this after we stopped the engines to fish a kelp paddy, and couldn't get the motor going again. We were lucky in that after letting the batteries rest for a few minutes, we were able to scrape out enough juice to turn the E-TEC over once or twice, and the engine started right up. Of course, the motor did not get turned off until after we got back to port...
At first, my initial suspicion was that there must be a significant short somewhere in the system. After all, what are the odds that both batteries would be dead, especially with our nifty battery combiner setup?
In order to have drained the batteries with the engine running, the short would have had to have been pulling a lot of amps from both batteries, and/or both batteries would have to have been damaged and unable to hold a charge. However, none of the circuit breakers tripped, and there was no sign of smoke or overheated circuits.
I was pretty sure the batteries were OK, as I had load tested both batteries a few month earlier, and they checked out fine. After I got home, I recharged the batteries, and load tested again. They were still OK.
This left the battery combiner as the only thing (other than the on-board charger) that was connected to both batteries and ground. It did not appear scorched or overheated, but I pulled it out, just in case.
Then I checked the alternator output from the E-TEC. After all, with 25 amps of capacity, it should have been more than capable of keeping everything charged and running. So I pulled the boat out into the driveway, hooked it up to a hose and started the motor. When I put the multi-meter on the engine lugs in the transom, it said that the alternator was outputing 12.6V. This seemed a bit low, but not unreasonable.
After a couple of phone calls to both BRP and our local Evinrude dealer, I was advised that only way to be sure about the alternator was to drain the battery below 12V, run the motor, and check both the output voltage and current.

courtesy Extech Instruments
I left the lights and other electronics on until the battery was drawn down below 12V (the MA220 can also function as a simple multi-meter, it said 11.5V), and started the engine again. Actually, since a 12V battery with only 11.5V of output is almost dead, I had to put the other battery on-line in order to get enough juice to start the engine.
After it started, I switched the second battery off, and used the clamp meter to measure the alternator current and voltage output. The alternator output voltage now read 11.3V, and only 1.6 amps of output! Under these conditions, the engine should have been putting out the full 25 amp capacity of the alternator, at something over 12V. I took the engine out of gear, and throttled up to 1,200 rpm, with no change in output.
So....back in to the shop! I still think the battery combiner is involved in some way, as there is no way both batteries could have been depleted at the same time without something connecting them both shorting out. Perhaps the battery combiner failure also damaged the engine charging system?
Boat Depot is taking me this next Tuesday, with the intent of getting the boat back to me Wednesday afternoon. Got to get that last tuna trip in before the Winter rains come!
July 12, 2007:
Plan B
Plan B

We've decided to convert TB2 over to XD-100 oil, so we were running the tank down as far as we could. It was pretty bumpy all day, and we did get several "Low Oil" alarms, but these were clearly real low oil alarms.
TB2 started without a hitch again. We've come to the conclusion that it might be tied to using an AGM Deep Cycle Battery to start the motor, so we'll try paralleling-in the "House B" battery when the engine is cold. Of course, the engine ran flawlessly after it started. Mileage for the day was around 3.5 mpg, but this is because we spent almost the entire day at 7 - 8 knots trolling, which is the most fuel-inefficient speed for the boat.
June 18, 2007:
Offshore Exploratory Trip
Offshore Exploratory Trip

Other than that, the engine ran fine. This trip was rougher than earlier trips, and there were no false low oil alarms.
The Goodyear Marathhons ran fine, hadn't noticed this, but they balanced the tires on the trailer.
May 20, 2007:
Replacement Tire
Replacement Tire
May 18, 2007:
Early Season Offshore
Early Season Offshore

Fishing was slow for yellowtail. We covered the Coronados and offshore to the 425 bank, and encountered large schools of small bonito (2lbs or so) offshore. A lot of fun on light tackle!
Our drive home turned into a bit of a grind - we were caught in rush hour traffic, when a good samaritan pulled up next to us and informed us that our right trailer tire had a huge bulge in it. We managed to pull off and got the tire changed without any excitement. Time for a trip to the tire store!
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